My friend, Barry Brownstein, recommended your writing to me and I’m glad I read this particular piece here. I have felt particularly alone as I’ve watched anti-semitism explode over the last few weeks…as alone as I felt when I tried to speak rationality during Covid hysteria. I’m grateful for your voice, in part, because it’s nice to know that I’m not alone.
Probably over 10,000 Palestiniana killed by Israel now, about 4,000 of whom are children. Maybe many more of you include the bodies still under the rubble. Of about 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza. So to make a similar kind of comparison Fenton made: That would be the equivalent of about 1.43 million Americans killed.
And counting, because Israel just keeps going.
And of course many will die because there is no safe drinking water anymore, and with the rotting corpses under the rubble disease will be rampant.
Hospitals are bombed daily now, and doctors have to operate on children without anesthesia.
Then there is the genocidal rhetoric coming from influential Israeli politicians and others. The Final Nakba may be in progress.
And mind you, each of those 4,000 dead Palestinian children is exactly as innocent of the Hamas atrocities as you and I are.
And many more than those 4,000,will moreover have been maimed. Hundreds of thousands deeply traumatized. Many orphaned or lost loved ones.
*That* deliberate policy by the Israeli government is what people object to.
"Israel has never murdered a Palestinian"
I don't know what is gong on in somebody's head to say something like that. It is too far detached from reality.
And the antisemitism smear is the crudest and most offensive rhetorical strategy, equating criticism of Israel's horrific barbarous serial war crimes to antisemitism. If you object to terror bombing one million children, you must be an antisemite.
It also trivializes the Holocaust as European Jews had done *nothing* to deserve the vicious antisemitism and subsequent extermination they were subjected to.
The Israeli government on the other hand, for decades before October 7, routinely brutalized and humiliated the has Palestinians, shot peaceful protestors or petest9rs armed with nothing more than a rock by the literally thousands during the Great March of Return, and since Hamas's atrocities the Israeli government has transformed into an all-out terror state.
If you keep brutalizing a people like that and if by enabling expansion of illegal settlements you destroy their last hope of a two state solution, then you knowingly take the risk that this same brutality will boomerang back, albeit not at the people actually responsible for those policies of brutalization and siege and murder, but at many Israeli civilians who are exactly as innocent of their government's crimes as the children in Gaza are of their terrorist rulers crimes.
It is that psychopathic behavior of the Israelii government (and the illegal settlers) that people object to. Not the ethnicity or religion of the person engaged in the psychopathic behavior. And it is frankly a vile kind of narcissism to believe so. Stop the psychopathic behavior and you will see how quickly 'antisemitism' goes down.
And to talk about Palestinian propaganda without even acknowledging the Blitzkrieg of Israeli propaganda, often as much or more atrocity propaganda as the Palestinians, complete with invented gruesome and zrazy stories, as if what Hamas actually did was not horrific enough.
What Israel, with full US and UK backing is currently engaged in is as barbarous and horrific and criminal as the Saudi+US}+UK war on Yemen, but at least the Saudis had the decency to commit their horrific war crimes without constantly whining about how it's really them who are the victims instead of their actual victims, the hundreds of thousands of children being bombed or dying of cholera or starvation, and without crying about how the people objecting to their serial mass murder of children are really just Islamophobic.
You’ve lost me by conflating Zionism with Judaism. Zionism lost me with the 1982 bombing of Beirut and the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. To call me antisemitic for opposing the massive ethnic cleansing, seizure of lands and homes. terrorism, administrative and legal torture, is grossly false and defamatory. Meanwhile the slaughter continues and escalated, and you choose to defame those who oppose it. Good bye.
Presumably you have read and listened to Kate, in the past, because you valued her work. I wonder why you are so sure, now, that listening to her interview with a noted scholar would waste your time?
Kind sir, Kate’s premises are founded on the conflation of critiques of Zionist extremism in the quicksands of Torah racist fundamentalism (Noah laws kill the goys), with the smear “antisemitic”. Mind you sir,!this is not a mentalist academic debate! Said Zionist fundamentalists explicitly advocate ethic cleansing, resettling with Jews and offer the present inhabitants of the land their G-d gave to his Chosen, 3 options: Subjugation/repentance/renunciation slavery, or transfer to other regions, or extermination. 1,000 dead, millions uprooted . . . escalating daily. A very present “anti-Paledtinian” emergency.
Well said Martine. If you check out Norman’s five part essay I linked here, I think in part four, he exposes that the UN were in fact very instrumental in propagating and advancing “anti-Zionism”.
My friend, Barry Brownstein, recommended your writing to me and I’m glad I read this particular piece here. I have felt particularly alone as I’ve watched anti-semitism explode over the last few weeks…as alone as I felt when I tried to speak rationality during Covid hysteria. I’m grateful for your voice, in part, because it’s nice to know that I’m not alone.
Thank you Amanda. 🙏💜
Powerful Kate. Thank you.
Thank you Barry 🙏
Probably over 10,000 Palestiniana killed by Israel now, about 4,000 of whom are children. Maybe many more of you include the bodies still under the rubble. Of about 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza. So to make a similar kind of comparison Fenton made: That would be the equivalent of about 1.43 million Americans killed.
And counting, because Israel just keeps going.
And of course many will die because there is no safe drinking water anymore, and with the rotting corpses under the rubble disease will be rampant.
Hospitals are bombed daily now, and doctors have to operate on children without anesthesia.
Then there is the genocidal rhetoric coming from influential Israeli politicians and others. The Final Nakba may be in progress.
And mind you, each of those 4,000 dead Palestinian children is exactly as innocent of the Hamas atrocities as you and I are.
And many more than those 4,000,will moreover have been maimed. Hundreds of thousands deeply traumatized. Many orphaned or lost loved ones.
*That* deliberate policy by the Israeli government is what people object to.
"Israel has never murdered a Palestinian"
I don't know what is gong on in somebody's head to say something like that. It is too far detached from reality.
And the antisemitism smear is the crudest and most offensive rhetorical strategy, equating criticism of Israel's horrific barbarous serial war crimes to antisemitism. If you object to terror bombing one million children, you must be an antisemite.
It also trivializes the Holocaust as European Jews had done *nothing* to deserve the vicious antisemitism and subsequent extermination they were subjected to.
The Israeli government on the other hand, for decades before October 7, routinely brutalized and humiliated the has Palestinians, shot peaceful protestors or petest9rs armed with nothing more than a rock by the literally thousands during the Great March of Return, and since Hamas's atrocities the Israeli government has transformed into an all-out terror state.
If you keep brutalizing a people like that and if by enabling expansion of illegal settlements you destroy their last hope of a two state solution, then you knowingly take the risk that this same brutality will boomerang back, albeit not at the people actually responsible for those policies of brutalization and siege and murder, but at many Israeli civilians who are exactly as innocent of their government's crimes as the children in Gaza are of their terrorist rulers crimes.
It is that psychopathic behavior of the Israelii government (and the illegal settlers) that people object to. Not the ethnicity or religion of the person engaged in the psychopathic behavior. And it is frankly a vile kind of narcissism to believe so. Stop the psychopathic behavior and you will see how quickly 'antisemitism' goes down.
And to talk about Palestinian propaganda without even acknowledging the Blitzkrieg of Israeli propaganda, often as much or more atrocity propaganda as the Palestinians, complete with invented gruesome and zrazy stories, as if what Hamas actually did was not horrific enough.
What Israel, with full US and UK backing is currently engaged in is as barbarous and horrific and criminal as the Saudi+US}+UK war on Yemen, but at least the Saudis had the decency to commit their horrific war crimes without constantly whining about how it's really them who are the victims instead of their actual victims, the hundreds of thousands of children being bombed or dying of cholera or starvation, and without crying about how the people objecting to their serial mass murder of children are really just Islamophobic.
You’ve lost me by conflating Zionism with Judaism. Zionism lost me with the 1982 bombing of Beirut and the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. To call me antisemitic for opposing the massive ethnic cleansing, seizure of lands and homes. terrorism, administrative and legal torture, is grossly false and defamatory. Meanwhile the slaughter continues and escalated, and you choose to defame those who oppose it. Good bye.
Presumably you have read and listened to Kate, in the past, because you valued her work. I wonder why you are so sure, now, that listening to her interview with a noted scholar would waste your time?
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Kind sir, Kate’s premises are founded on the conflation of critiques of Zionist extremism in the quicksands of Torah racist fundamentalism (Noah laws kill the goys), with the smear “antisemitic”. Mind you sir,!this is not a mentalist academic debate! Said Zionist fundamentalists explicitly advocate ethic cleansing, resettling with Jews and offer the present inhabitants of the land their G-d gave to his Chosen, 3 options: Subjugation/repentance/renunciation slavery, or transfer to other regions, or extermination. 1,000 dead, millions uprooted . . . escalating daily. A very present “anti-Paledtinian” emergency.
Well said Martine. If you check out Norman’s five part essay I linked here, I think in part four, he exposes that the UN were in fact very instrumental in propagating and advancing “anti-Zionism”.